The Project Management Podcast

This is a Rebroadcast The PMI Global Congress 2016 North America will take place at the end of September 2016 in San Diego. This video and the worksheet that goes with it will help you prepare and make the most out of attending the conference! Play Now: Sorry. Your browser cannot play this video. We project managers attend many conferences. And I remember quite clearly how disappointed I was after some of these project management conferences because I realized that I didn’t get as much out of them as I had hoped. So I decided that instead of continuing to hope for more success, I would have to plan for it. This video and the accompanying checklist contain my personal best practices for conference success. I hope that it will help you plan for a successful conference as well. Please feel free to share any improvements ideas with me in the comment section below. Below are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only.  Podcast Introduction Cornelius Fichtner: Hello and welcome to Episode # 280. This is the Project Management Podcast™ at www.pm-podcast.com and I'm Cornelius Fichtner. Welcome back. This episode is all about getting the most out of a project management conference and we have a checklist for you as well. The idea for this episode and the checklist came to me a few days ago when I signed up for one of PMI's Global Congresses. I invested about $2,500 in my 3-day attendance at the congress. That's the congress fee, the plane ticket, the hotel so I decided you know what, with so much money at stake here, $2,500 quite a bit of chunk of money, I want to make this a success. And so I decided to develop this checklist for you and for me because we project managers attend many conferences and I remember quite clearly how disappointed I was of some of these conferences because I realized I didn’t get as much out of them as I had hoped. So I decided instead of continuing to hope for more success, I would have to plan for it. This checklist contains my personal best practices for conference success and I really hope that it allows you to plan for a successful conference as well. And of course, this checklist is available for download on The PM Podcast™ website. Just go to www.pm-podcast.com, Episode #280 and you'll see a link to download it. For the rest of this episode, we are now going to go through this checklist together. It has 3 sections --- before the conference, during the conference and after the conference. Or because we are all project managers here, it's nothing but the plan-do-check-act cycle. And of course the first section of the checklist before the conference that corresponds to the planning portion of the plan-do-check-act cycle. Frankly if you want to stop right now, just download the checklist and work on it offline, I am not going to be angry at all because the checklist is quite self-explanatory but continuing to view this video to listen to this episode here will probably help you because I'm going to give you a lot of background information and insights and ideas. Alright then, let's get's started with planning our conference attendance. It will come as no surprise to you that the first thing we're going to have to do is we are going to have to define goals. Why are we planning or attending this conference? So describe what you hope to gain or learn at the conference. Do stay realistic and plan to be able to achieve only one or two goals maximum. If you say yourself, 7,8, 9, 10 goals then suddenly everything becomes important and when everything is important, nothing is really important anymore. As an example here personally whenever I attend a conference, I want to bring value to the listeners of The Project Management Podcast™ and I often achieve in various ways by recording episodes, by recording interviews right there live on site or just bringing home new ideas, business cards of guests I can invite in the future or episodes that I record on

This is a Rebroadcast The PMI Global Congress 2016 North America will take place at the end of September 2016 in San Diego. This worksheet will help you prepare and make the most out of attending the conference! Click here to download the checklist for getting the most out of a project management conference... Use this worksheet to help you prepare for your next project management conference. It will make the difference between merely attending the conference and succeeding at attending the conference.

Play Now: This episode is sponsored by The PM PrepCast: Niraj Kumar, PMP Is PMP certification worth it? According to Niraj Kumar (www.leadproje.com -- http://www.linkedin.com/in/thenirajkumar) the answer is an emphatic yes! He not only says that the PMP salary you can expect is greater on average, but he also found many other PMP certification benefits. Having a shared vocabulary and enjoying a completely different and often steep career path are just two of them. So if you are either already PMP certified or thinking about your own PMP Exam Prep and and wondering about the value of PMP certification, then this interview is definitely for you. Niraj and I explore the benefits of being or becoming a PMP from various aspects. Below are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Podcast Introduction Cornelius Fichtner: Hello and welcome to Episode #364. This is The Project Management Podcast™ at www.pm-podcast.com and I'm Cornelius Fichtner. Thank you very much for listening in. Please remember that we are a listener-supported podcast, so if you enjoy these interviews then please visit www.pm-podcast.com/premium Well is the PMP certification worth it? According to Niraj Kumar the answer is an emphatic yes. He not only says that the PMP salary that you can expect is greater on average, but he also found many other PMP certification benefits: having a shared vocabulary; and enjoying a completely different, and often steep, career path; are just two of them. If you are a project manager and you want to become PMP or PMI-ACP Certified, then the easiest way to do so is with our sister podcast The Project Management PrepCast or the Agile PrepCast and study for the exam by watching the in-depth exam prep video training from www.pm-prepcast.com. So if you are either PMP certified or you’re thinking about it and wondering about the value of PMP certification then this interview with Niraj Kumar is definitely for you. Niraj and I, we explore the benefits of being or becoming a PMP from various aspects. And now, getting there is half the fun; being there is all of it. Enjoy the interview. Podcast Interview Female Voice: The Project Management Podcast's feature interview: Today with Niraj Kumar, who talks about leadership and leads a team of managers and engineers at his day job. Cornelius Fichtner: Hello, Niraj and welcome to the program! Niraj Kumar: Hello, Cornelius. Thank you for inviting me! I’m honored, I’m very honored to be on your podcast. Cornelius Fichtner: Well, thank you very much, very happy to have you! So you became a PMP a long time ago. We want to talk about the value of the PMP® Exam. But what can our listeners expect to take away from our discussion today? Niraj Kumar: I think connecting to what you just said, our listeners can take away the fact that PMP certification does not add value just right now in their career right in this moment; it keeps adding value for a long time. And looking at a certification like this for the value it creates long term is a way to go. And it kind of takes the pressure off a little bit that you don’t have to gain everything right now. But it also lets a PMP understand that this is something that will keep helping them for a long, long time. Cornelius Fichtner: Why is it important for you to talk about this? Because I want to make it absolutely clear to the listeners—this interview wasn’t my idea! You wrote to me and said why don’t we do an interview about the value of the PMP exam. So, what is the importance for you? Niraj Kumar: The importance for me personally is that a certification and appealing for a certification, writing the exam, connecting with the community of certified professionals, kind of helps you on a self-growth. It puts you on a path to self-development. It gets you into a category of professionals who are not relying on others to help them develop, b

Play Now: This episode is sponsored by The PM PrepCast for PMP Exam Prep: Joseph Flahiff, PMP, PMI-ACP Have you heard of supportive leadership? I certainly had not. I knew what servant leadership was, but the concept of supportive leadership was a definite unknown. But that changed when Joseph Flahiff (www.whitewaterprojects.com -- www.linkedin.com/in/josephflahiff) got in touch with me and suggested this interview. I was intrigued. The good news is that Joseph is a prolific writer who has a number of articles on the topic. He reviews the concept from various angles and he also has a number of great examples of how he works with his customers to implement supportive leadership in their organizations and how he uses the concept as a project leader himself. You’ll be able to incorporate all of this as part of your own project leadership almost right away. And of course we will also touch upon the main difference between supportive leadership and servant leadership. You’ll be just as surprised as I was. Below are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Podcast Introduction Cornelius Fichtner: Hello and welcome to Episode #363. This is The Project Management Podcast™ at www.pm-podcast.com and I'm Cornelius Fichtner. Have you heard of supportive leadership? I certainly had not.I knew what servant leadership was, but the concept of supportive leadership--that was a definite unknown. But that changed when Joseph Flahiff got in touch with me and suggested this interview. I was intrigued. The good news is that Joseph is a prolific writer who has a number of articles on the topic. He reviews the concept from various angles and he also has a number of great examples of how he works with his customers to implement supportive leadership in their organizations and how he uses the concept as a project leader himself. You'll be able to incorporate all of this as part of your own project leadership almost right away. And, of course, we will also touch upon the main difference between supportive leadership and servant leadership. You'll probably be just as surprised as I was. And now, enjoy the interview. Podcast Interview Female Voice: The Project Management Podcast's feature interview: Today with Joseph Flahiff, project management author, consultant and organizational alchemist. Cornelius Fichtner: Hello, Joseph! Welcome back to the podcast. Joseph Flahiff: Hey Cornelius, thank you. Pleasure to be here. Cornelius Fichtner: So, supportive leadership is our topic today, but let me skip all the way to the end of our conversation. What is going to be the big takeaway that our listeners will learn from this discussion? Joseph Flahiff: I think the big takeaway will actually depend on where the listener is coming from. So, they'll either hear a completely new or, at least, a slightly new, different approach to leadership; or they will be hearing something that maybe confirms and gives them more language to speak about what they feel internally already. Cornelius Fichtner: So, is supportive leadership something new? Joseph Flahiff: Is supportive leadership new? It's not really necessarily new per se, but I've put a language and a framework around some things that I've always done and that I've seen work well in my clients. So, in that sense, as a thing it's relatively new. There's a million forms of leadership, and we're all trying to describe what great leadership looks like, and how we see great leaders act, so this is my framework for describing how great leaders work. Cornelius Fichtner: And talking how you describe this, you wrote several articles about supportive leadership and in them you talk about supportive leadership mostly in the context of line management and operations management. Does it translate over into project management? Joseph Flahiff: Absolutely. Actually, that's where I come from--the project management w

Play Now: This episode is sponsored by The PM PrepCast for PMP Exam Prep: Jim Coughenour, PMP Are you thinking about how to get PMP certified and wondering whether you should take a PMP boot camp, a PMP class, hire a PMP trainer, or whether to achieve this certification simply through PMP self-study? We have the answer for you in this interview with Jim Coughenour (https://www.linkedin.com/in/coughenourjim). Jim is an experienced PMP Trainer and he and I look at the benefits, disadvantages, cost and other factors that you should consider before deciding which way you want to go. But even if you have already decided that maybe a PMP bootcamp is for you, then I recommend that you should still listen to our discussion because I also ask him to share with us his tips on what you should and should not be including as part of your PMP preparation. Below are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Podcast Introduction Coming Soon... Above are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Please subscribe to our Premium Podcast to receive a PDF transcript.

Play Now: This episode is sponsored by the PMP Exam Simulator: Niraj Kumar, PMP Leadership in project management is an important topic these days. And if you are like most project managers then you may have fallen into project management a bit by accident. And then, after you have successfully delivered a few projects, suddenly everyone tells you that you must improve your project management leadership skills. Effective project management, they say, depends a lot on your project leadership. And so once you realise that you have to transform into a project leader then leadership training will be part of your ongoing professional development, which is where our guest can help. Niraj Kumar (www.leadproje.com -- http://www.linkedin.com/in/thenirajkumar) is a leadership expert and proponent of self-growth through continuous learning. Together we explore his view on leadership, how these skill help you as a project manager, how they help you when dealing with senior executives, and as always we include a lot of tips on how you yourself can improve how you approach project management and leadership starting today. Leadership Checklist As part of this interview Niraj offers a free leadership checklist to all our listeners. Please click here to sign up and download your checklist... Below are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Podcast Introduction Coming Soon... Above are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Please subscribe to our Premium Podcast to receive a PDF transcript.

Cornelius says "welcome to episode 359" at the beginning of this audio even though this is in fact episode 360. Play Now: This episode is sponsored by the PMP Exam Simulator: Dr. Julie DeSot, PMP If you are preparing for your PMP Exam then you know that one of the most important activities is to take many PMP sample exams and answer as many PMP sample questions as you can. But as a general rule, it is not always easy to identify the correct PMP exam answers. Those who pass the PMP exam often report back that PMP answers are ambiguous, sometimes more than one looks right and sometimes you may even have to choose the one that is least wrong. So what are you to do? One solution is that you can work with a PMP Trainer who guides you and works with you on those pesky questions. And this is of course exactly why I have invited Dr. Julie DeSot (https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliedesot) for an interview. As a PMP coach she has helped many people successfully prepare for their PMP exam and get to the bottom of those questions. Below are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Podcast Introduction Coming Soon... Above are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Please subscribe to our Premium Podcast to receive a PDF transcript.

Play Now: This episode is sponsored by The PM PrepCast for The PMP Exam: David M. Kornaros, PMP, CSM Today you will be treated to another PMP exam success story. I proudly present to you David Kornaros (https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidkornaros) who is one of my successful PMP students. He has used The PM PrepCast, which is my PMP training videocast and also The PM Exam Simulator in his preparation. As always with these interviews, they are intended for those among you who are currently preparing for their PMP Exam because the in-depth knowledge that I can take from someone like David who has passed their PMP exam will help you understand how to prepare for PMP. This PMP exam lessons learned interview reviews David’s journey from start to finish, including many tips and tricks that he picked up along the way. Below are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Podcast Introduction Cornelius Fichtner: Hello and welcome to Episode #354.  This is The Project Management Podcast™ at www.pm-podcast.com and I'm Cornelius Fichtner. Before we start, please don't forget that we are a listener-supported podcast. If you enjoy your interviews then please visit www.pm-podcast.com/premium. Your subscription will help keep us going. Today, you will be treated to another PMP® exam success story. I proudly present to you David Kornaros who is one of my successful PMP students. He has used PM PrepCast™, which is my PMP training videocast and also the PM Exam Simulator™ in his preparation. As always with these interviews, they are intended for those among you who are currently preparing for their PMP® exam because the in-depth knowledge that I can take from someone like David who has passed the PMP® exam will help you understand how to prepare for your own PMP® exam. These PMP® Exam Lessons Learned interview reviews David's journey from start to finish including many tips and tricks that he picked up along the way. And now, here is what he has learned! Enjoy the interview. Podcast Interview Female Voice: The Project Management Podcast's feature interview: Today with David Kornaros, PMP, Business Informations Program Manager. Cornelius Fichtner: Hello, David and welcome! David Kornaros: Hi, Cornelius! How are you? Cornelius Fichtner: I'm very well, thank you. It's quite warm here in Southern California. David Kornaros: As it is in northern. Cornelius Fichtner: Well, Congratulations, on passing your PMP® exam! David Kornaros: Thank you very much, I appreciate it. Cornelius Fichtner: Yeah, you did the impossible, okay. Let's me explain this for our listeners when you take the PMP® exam, you don’t just get passed or failed. PMI gives you a little bit more information. So the exam is divided up into the 5 domains --- Initiating, Planning, Executing, Monitoring and Controlling, and Closing. And for each of those domains, you get a proficiency level. You are either proficient; you are moderately proficient and you are below proficient. And oftentimes when you read lessons learned, people say: "Oh I had 3 P's, three times proficient and 1 time MP, moderately proficient." But no, David goes and he's got 5 P's, he's got 5 'Proficients'. How did you do that? David Kornaros: It's a great question because honestly, I would have been perfectly satisfied with just passing. Because I had learned of the PMP certification and PMI just 6 months before I took the exam. Cornelius Fichtner: Alright! David Kornaros: A friend of mine turned me on to it and I started researching it in the summer, July, August timeframe, realized I may have the necessary hours to become certified and I have an opportunity here to add a certification to my professional experience because I really didn’t want to invest 2 years of my life in an MBA. But I knew if I can give this a real go and invest he

Play Now: This episode is sponsored by The Agile PrepCast:: Shyamsundar Ramanathan, PMP Global delivery models have changed the way IT services are delivered and many organizations use them. They are the way of the world. The significant benefits include the ability to provide round the clock services, ensure business continuity, level the playing field through best-in-class consulting, and finally provide key cost advantages for all organizations alike. But there are also challenges, because we have now have virtual teams with its members around the world and we may never meet them. So what’s a project leader to do? Shyamsundar Ramanathan (http://maximisepotential.blogspot.com/, https://www.linkedin.com/in/shyamsundarramanathan ) says that first of all, the key to success of this kind of delivery model is communication. And then he has seven specific recommendations that will help. In our interview we will define what the global delivery model is, briefly discuss DevOps and then get going with his recommendations and how they will help improve your effectiveness as a project leader of such a global team. Shyam would like us to mention that the views he expresses in this interview are his own and not those of his employer. Episode Transcript Below are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Podcast Introduction Cornelius Fichtner: Hello and welcome to Episode #349.  This is The Project Management Podcast™ at www.pm-podcast.com and I'm Cornelius Fichtner. Thank you for listening in. Before we start, I wanted to remind everyone that we are listener-supported podcast so if you enjoy the interviews then please visit www.pm-podcast.com/premium. Your subscription will help to keep us going. Thank you! Global delivery models have changed the way IT services are delivered and many organizations use them. They are the way of the world, you might say. The significant benefits include the ability to provide round-the-clock services on sure business continuity, level the playing field through best in class consulting and finally provide key cost advantages for all organizations alike. But there are also challenges because we now have virtual teams with its members around the world and we may never meet them. So what's a project leader to do? Shayamsundar Ramanathan says that first of all, the key to success of this kind of delivery model is communication and then he has 7 specific recommendations that will help. In our interview, we will define what the global delivery model is, briefly discuss dev ops and then get going with his recommendations and how they will help improve your effectiveness as a project leader of such a global team. Before we start the interview, Shyam has asked me to specifically mention that the views he expresses in this interview are his own and not those of his employer. And now, can you manage another interview? Enjoy! Podcast Interview Female voice: The Project Management Podcast’s feature Interview: Today with Shyamsundar Ramanathan, Director of Software Quality Assurance. Cornelius Fichtner: Hello, Shyam! Welcome to The Project Management Podcast™! Shyamsundar Ramanathan: Thank you, Cornelius! It's a pleasure to be here. Cornelius Fichtner: So tell me, what is a global delivery model? Shyamsundar Ramanathan: Yes, so the global delivery model is a combination of onshore and offshore development and it is also one of the most preferred methods for the delivery of IT services and solutions globally. It also promises top quality development, onsite delivery and faster project cycles and this is the key selling point - refreshingly affordable rate. So that's very important for a lot of customers and that's why more customers are going towards a global delivery model at this point. Cornelius Fichtner: Is this a model that is used exclusively to deliver IT services or do other industries use this as well? Shy

Play Now: Sorry. Your browser cannot play this video. PMI certifications are not for life. Instead, once you pass the exam you are required to go through recertification every three years. The good news is that you don’t have to take the exam again. Instead, you have to earn Professional Development Units (PDUs) in project management during this time. Then the cycle begins anew. This episode looks in detail at what PDUs are, how they are structured, discusses the Talent Triangle and gives you recommendations on where to learn more about PDUs, how to earn PDUs not only from Premium Podcasts but from normal learning activities that we project managers participate in regularly. It's all much simpler than you think and this guide breaks it down for you.

Play Now: This episode is sponsored by The Agile PrepCast. Earn 37 PDUs:: Cornelius Fichtner and Neal Whitten This interview with Neal Whitten was recorded at the 2015 PMI Global Congress in Orlando, Florida. We discuss his paper and presentation "Achieving the Elusive Work-Life Balance". Here is the paper's abstract: If you have difficulty in juggling the demands of your job and your non-work life, you’re not alone. Many people feel like their lives are overcommitted and see no relief in sight. Nowadays, work-life balance can seem like an unrealistic objective and can seem more elusive than ever. I have personally wrestled with my own work-life balance issues for most of my adult life, but—as a senior-aged person—I have learned a massive amount of knowledge and, dare I say, wisdom, about the highly important subject of finding a satisfactory harmony across all aspects of life. I have also read the research and musings from many valuable contributors that have opened my eyes even wider on maintaining a healthy work-life balance. My mission here is to sift through the data and present to you meaningful information that can help you to not only better understand your work-life balance, but can also give you ideas that can help you to achieve the integration that is most important to you. Episode Transcript Below are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Coming very soon to a podcast near you... :-) Above are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Please subscribe to our Premium Podcast to receive a PDF transcript.

Click here to download the Power Snippets PDF Document... This PDF Document is the first of two handouts that Neal gave to the attendees of his session "Achieving the Elusive Work-Life Balance" at the PMI Global Congress 2015 in Orlando FL. The document is also part of a Neal Whitten eLearning course called "Achieving the Elusive Work-Life Balance" and was developed by Neal Whitten in partnership with Velociteach.

Click here to download the Self-Assessment Questionnaire PDF Document... This PDF Document is a the second of two handouts that Neal gave to the attendees of his session "Achieving the Elusive Work-Life Balance" at the PMI Global Congress 2015 in Orlando FL. The document is also part of a Neal Whitten eLearning course called "Achieving the Elusive Work-Life Balance" and was developed by Neal Whitten in partnership with Velociteach.

Play Now: This episode is sponsored by The Agile PrepCast. Earn 37 PDUs:: Cornelius Fichtner and Jesse Fewell This interview with Jesse Fewell was recorded at the 2015 PMI Global Congress in Orlando, Florida. We discuss his paper and presentation "Can You Hear Me Now? Working with Global, Distributed, Virtual Teams". Here is the paper's abstract: Today's work world has changed radically. Whether video chatting with China or taking a call at from home, more and more professional work is no longer in person. It can be frustrating, but a deeper look reveals some surprises: Everyone is doing it, and not just for costs; many organizations are thriving with it. Most pain points have simple work-arounds. This paper will walk you through tips and benefits for working with people outside your office. With the rise of the Internet, emerging economies, and the trend of working from home, today’s professionals are dealing with a workplace that is very different from anything the world has ever seen. Never before in the history of mankind have we been able to conduct so much work, so quickly, with so many people outside our own location. Of course, it’s not all rainbows and unicorns. We struggle with time zone issues, language barriers, limited visibility, poor infrastructure, and so on and so on. Sometimes we choose remote teams intentionally for their benefits. But often, this kind of organizational structure is handed to managers and team members without choice. This paper is about how to deal with all those issues and strengthen your teams. Episode Transcript Below are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Coming very soon to a podcast near you... :-) Above are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Please subscribe to our Premium Podcast to receive a PDF transcript.

Play Now: This episode is sponsored by The Agile PrepCast. Earn 37 PDUs:: Cornelius Fichtner and Elizabeth Larson This interview with Elizabeth Larson was recorded at the 2015 PMI Global Congress in Orlando, Florida. We discuss her paper and presentation "I Don’t Have Time to Innovate: I’m Too Busy Doing Business Analysis" (Co-written with Richard Larson). Here is the paper's abstract: Everyone seems to be talking about the importance of organizational innovation, as well as what it means for practitioners of business analysis. Are business analysis and innovation even compatible? This paper answers this question affirmatively: yes, they are. But what is innovation and how can business analysis practitioners help organizations innovate? Innovation may include process improvement as some have suggested. It also may include doing root cause analysis to identify problems and then finding solutions to those problems as others have claimed. And it can certainly include doing projects agilely, changing the features of the product being built as needs become known. However, although each of these is an important factor in developing creative solutions, each by itself is probably not enough. Innovation requires us not only to spot all manner of opportunities, but also to use our influencing skills to convince the organization to seize them. Episode Transcript Below are the first few pages of the transcript. The complete transcript is available to Premium subscribers only. Podcast Introduction Cornelius Fichtner: Welcome back to Orlando, Florida. You are listening to the Project Management Podcast at www.pm-podcast.com. And we're coming to you live from the 2015 PMI Global Congress. I'm sitting in the Exhibit Hall and next to me is Elizabeth Larson. Hello, Elizabeth. Elizabeth Larson:   Hi, Cornelius. Cornelius Fichtner:   Good morning. How's everything? Elizabeth Larson:   Everything is great. I really am delighted to be here. Cornelius Fichtner:   Wonderful. Elizabeth Larson:   Happy to be talking to you. Cornelius Fichtner:   So our key note this morning is all about innovation. You and I, we're going to talk about innovation. This is a wonderful mind-meld here today. But my first question for you, what is the 2016 trend that you see coming our way? Elizabeth Larson:   As far as project management is concerned, I see the fact that project management skills will always be needed. Whether we're working on Agile projects, whether we're working on traditional projects, we need the project management skills. But the trend that I see is more towards a distribution of the role. I see the titles are going to be less important so maybe the title of project manager will be less important in some organizations than it's been in the past. But the skills will still be needed. So that's the trend that I see. I see other people may be picking up parts of what we now might say as a project manager role. And I see that the project manager may be asked to pick up and do some other things, but the skills are still going to be needed. Cornelius Fichtner:   Excellent. I Don't Have Time To Innovate, I'm Too Busy Doing Business Analysis is the topic of your paper & presentation. Why this topic? What got you interested in it? Elizabeth Larson:   I'm very interested in business analysis. And when I say business analysis, I do distinguish between business analysis and a business analyst by the way. So I'm talking about anyone that practices business analysis. I'm also very interested in innovation and its effect on organizations of all sizes. And I thought, this would be kind of a fun topic that, boy, some people think it's an either/or thing. That either we're doing business analysis, I’m so busy, I don't have time to do anything else or I'm busy innovating. And my central theme really is, i