Mormon Truth Uncensored!!

This is part 3 of my discussion with "Demon of Kolob", regarding the PBS documentary "The Mormons." For a full description and additional links, please see the description from part 1 or the Mormon Truth Uncensored blog, where you can also leave comments. I will release the last part, which is part 4, later on tonight.

This is part 2 of my discussion with "Demon of Kolob", regarding the PBS documentary "The Mormons." For a full description and additional links, please see the description from part 1 or the Mormon Truth Uncensored blog, where you can also leave comments.

This is part 2 of my discussion with "Demon of Kolob", regarding the PBS documentary "The Mormons." For a full description and additional links, please see the description from part 1 or the Mormon Truth Uncensored blog, where you can also leave comments.

This is part 1 of at least 4 that we'll end up with, of Demon of Kolob and myself, discussing the PBS Documentary entitled "The Mormons", which was shown on April 30 and May 1, 2007 on PBS. The purpose and necessity of this podcast, was for us to be able to tell the "real truth" and "complete truth" regarding Mormonism and what was covered and not covered in this Documentary. We felt the need to talk to the world and especially those Mormons that are currently on the fence and those that are currently investigating Mormonism and to tell the whole, complete truth. Mormon missionaries are lying to the world every single day, just doing what they've been taught and trained to do, and someone has to have the back of the innocent people that are being lied to and completely deceived by the Mormon snake oil salesmen. This documentary surprisingly covered a lot of things, but also left out a ton of things and important details, that are very important for people to know, when they are making the life changing decision of trying to decide whether to stay in or join the Mormon church/cult. Hopefully our insights will help a lot of people out there and we look forward to your comments over on the Mormon Truth Uncensored Podcast blog.

This is part 1 of at least 4 that we'll end up with, of Demon of Kolob and myself, discussing the PBS Documentary entitled "The Mormons", which was shown on April 30 and May 1, 2007 on PBS. The purpose and necessity of this podcast, was for us to be able to tell the "real truth" and "complete truth" regarding Mormonism and what was covered and not covered in this Documentary. We felt the need to talk to the world and especially those Mormons that are currently on the fence and those that are currently investigating Mormonism and to tell the whole, complete truth. Mormon missionaries are lying to the world every single day, just doing what they've been taught and trained to do, and someone has to have the back of the innocent people that are being lied to and completely deceived by the Mormon snake oil salesmen. This documentary surprisingly covered a lot of things, but also left out a ton of things and important details, that are very important for people to know, when they are making the life changing decision of trying to decide whether to stay in or join the Mormon church/cult. Hopefully our insights will help a lot of people out there and we look forward to your comments over on the Mormon Truth Uncensored Podcast blog.

This is my response to a commenter who calls himself Jose "the real Lamanite." I discuss his comments where he said: "I have a theory about you and you Hinkley hating. Its this: You served in argentina, they F'd your mind up, you come back states, marry in the temple but can't stop mastubating (hence all those post on mastubation). You where probably told off by Mickelsen, or told by him to stop playing with your dick, so hate him too." Yeah, it's amazing how he nailed it with that comment and his very deep and intelligent insights....LOL....NOT!! I also respond to some other things he's said and his main question of how do I dismiss the whole "feelings" thing in the church. He again has his own theory on how to "'prove' the church false." Jose also says: "You know you will never fully succeed in this endevour because your not attacking what keeps the church alive, and that is the presence of the spirit. To 'prove' the church false you'd need to somehow get the spirit to leave meetings. Only way to do that, I'm convinced, is to get everyone hooked on porn or, like you, masturbation. Entiende??" Yeah, this man is obsessed, just like his Mormon Hierarchy and leaders, with the masturbation issue, but has since backed off it a little. He was leaving better, more intelligent comments, that actually had something to do with the issues and why us ex-Mormons leave the church, but now has reverted back to racist and perverted comments and insults and is the first person that I've banned from my blog. I will not tolerate blatant racists on my blog, since I've been fighting so hard against the racist Mormon teachings and history, which they refuse to apologize for. It's amazing that he considers himself to be a good Mormon, with a fairly high calling and of course a temple recommend. He is a horrible example of a "good Mormon" and is an embarrassment to any Mormon or Christian. Samuel the Utahnite

This is my response to a commenter who calls himself Jose "the real Lamanite." I discuss his comments where he said: "I have a theory about you and you Hinkley hating. Its this: You served in argentina, they F'd your mind up, you come back states, marry in the temple but can't stop mastubating (hence all those post on mastubation). You where probably told off by Mickelsen, or told by him to stop playing with your dick, so hate him too." Yeah, it's amazing how he nailed it with that comment and his very deep and intelligent insights....LOL....NOT!! I also respond to some other things he's said and his main question of how do I dismiss the whole "feelings" thing in the church. He again has his own theory on how to "'prove' the church false." Jose also says: "You know you will never fully succeed in this endevour because your not attacking what keeps the church alive, and that is the presence of the spirit. To 'prove' the church false you'd need to somehow get the spirit to leave meetings. Only way to do that, I'm convinced, is to get everyone hooked on porn or, like you, masturbation. Entiende??" Yeah, this man is obsessed, just like his Mormon Hierarchy and leaders, with the masturbation issue, but has since backed off it a little. He was leaving better, more intelligent comments, that actually had something to do with the issues and why us ex-Mormons leave the church, but now has reverted back to racist and perverted comments and insults and is the first person that I've banned from my blog. I will not tolerate blatant racists on my blog, since I've been fighting so hard against the racist Mormon teachings and history, which they refuse to apologize for. It's amazing that he considers himself to be a good Mormon, with a fairly high calling and of course a temple recommend. He is a horrible example of a "good Mormon" and is an embarrassment to any Mormon or Christian. Samuel the Utahnite

"I'm not persuaded that the Book of Mormon is a translation of an ancient history." -Van Hale-September 18, 2005 "I am not persuaded that the detail in the Book of Mormon is detail pertaining to people that anciently lived on the Americas."-Van Hale-September 18, 2005 "Well, my point of view regarding the plates is that the plates did exist, that they were delivered to Joseph Smith by an angel and they were shown to witnesses of the Book of Mormon and that gave them something tangible to testify about, that they had seen the plates and handled them but I don't think that Joseph Smith was, that the Book of Mormon relates to anything that was on the plates. It was, I don't know what word to use to, without, without it sounding crude, but uh, the only word I can think of is the idea of a prop."-Van Hale-September 18, 2005 This podcast deals with the Mormon apologist/talk show host Van Hale and his views on what exactly the Book of Mormon is, since he believes that it is NOT an actual history of the people that lived in ancient America, which is what the Mormon Hierarchy have taught and believed since 1830. In this podcast, I will read the rest of the Email that I sent him(of which he only read the first 3 lines), and let you hear for yourself, what he actually said, versus what Van Hale thinks he said. But, to say that the historicity of the BOM isn't "emphasized" by the Mormon Hierarchy, which would include being taught in seminary, in Sunday School, institute classes, in General Conferences, in Ensigns, by missionaries and the BOM itself, is a flat out lie and deception by Van Hale. The Church does emphasize it and always has, in all of the places I just mentioned above. What is the purpose of FARMS, now officially part of BYU since 1997, thanks to Hinckley? It is so amazing that Van Hale, actually believes that the "golden plates" were just a "prop", to have something tangible for the witnesses of the BOM to see and feel. Wow, that would be outright deceit, by Joseph Smith and the Mormon God, wouldn't it? I guess we are back to lying for the Lord again, aren't we? I don't even think that Daniel Peterson would dare take it that far and he's about as bad as it gets with the Apologetics, or so I thought. Van Hale doesn't believe that what is contained in the BOM, has anything to do with what was on the plates. Amazing, I know, but this is how far his beliefs have slipped into very deep cognitive dissonance, in order to keep his testimony of the Mormon Church. I then discuss the "official position" that the Mormon Hierarchy takes on the Book of Mormon historicity. Simply put; you cannot be a good, upstanding, true believing member of the Church and be allowed to openly have the opinion that Van Hale has of the Book of Mormon. Many others, that have had this very opinion, have been either excommunicated or disfellowshipped. I just want to know how Van Hale gets away with it, while others are punished and excommunicated or disfellowshipped. On Mormon.org(official Mormon website), on the page where non-members go to order a free Book of Mormon, to find out just what the hell it is, it says: The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ, is a record of God's dealings with the inhabitants of ancient America. The Title page of the Book of Mormon says it all and you can all go to the post for this podcast, on my blog to read what it says or any Book of Mormon and then tell me what you think it says? So, you guys tell me, does the introduction page in the Book of Mormon, make it sound like it's an "ACTUAL HISTORY OF ANCIENT INHABITANTS OF AMERICA, THAT ARE THE PRINCIPAL ANCESTORS OF AMERICAN INDIANS?" Sorry Van Hale, my misunderstanding I guess!! LOL!! Enjoy everyone and please leave your comments!! For the links, comments and more thorough information regarding this podcast, please visit: http://mormontruthuncensored.blogspot.com/ Samuel the Utahnite

"I'm not persuaded that the Book of Mormon is a translation of an ancient history." -Van Hale-September 18, 2005 "I am not persuaded that the detail in the Book of Mormon is detail pertaining to people that anciently lived on the Americas."-Van Hale-September 18, 2005 "Well, my point of view regarding the plates is that the plates did exist, that they were delivered to Joseph Smith by an angel and they were shown to witnesses of the Book of Mormon and that gave them something tangible to testify about, that they had seen the plates and handled them but I don't think that Joseph Smith was, that the Book of Mormon relates to anything that was on the plates. It was, I don't know what word to use to, without, without it sounding crude, but uh, the only word I can think of is the idea of a prop."-Van Hale-September 18, 2005 This podcast deals with the Mormon apologist/talk show host Van Hale and his views on what exactly the Book of Mormon is, since he believes that it is NOT an actual history of the people that lived in ancient America, which is what the Mormon Hierarchy have taught and believed since 1830. In this podcast, I will read the rest of the Email that I sent him(of which he only read the first 3 lines), and let you hear for yourself, what he actually said, versus what Van Hale thinks he said. But, to say that the historicity of the BOM isn't "emphasized" by the Mormon Hierarchy, which would include being taught in seminary, in Sunday School, institute classes, in General Conferences, in Ensigns, by missionaries and the BOM itself, is a flat out lie and deception by Van Hale. The Church does emphasize it and always has, in all of the places I just mentioned above. What is the purpose of FARMS, now officially part of BYU since 1997, thanks to Hinckley? It is so amazing that Van Hale, actually believes that the "golden plates" were just a "prop", to have something tangible for the witnesses of the BOM to see and feel. Wow, that would be outright deceit, by Joseph Smith and the Mormon God, wouldn't it? I guess we are back to lying for the Lord again, aren't we? I don't even think that Daniel Peterson would dare take it that far and he's about as bad as it gets with the Apologetics, or so I thought. Van Hale doesn't believe that what is contained in the BOM, has anything to do with what was on the plates. Amazing, I know, but this is how far his beliefs have slipped into very deep cognitive dissonance, in order to keep his testimony of the Mormon Church. I then discuss the "official position" that the Mormon Hierarchy takes on the Book of Mormon historicity. Simply put; you cannot be a good, upstanding, true believing member of the Church and be allowed to openly have the opinion that Van Hale has of the Book of Mormon. Many others, that have had this very opinion, have been either excommunicated or disfellowshipped. I just want to know how Van Hale gets away with it, while others are punished and excommunicated or disfellowshipped. On Mormon.org(official Mormon website), on the page where non-members go to order a free Book of Mormon, to find out just what the hell it is, it says: The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ, is a record of God's dealings with the inhabitants of ancient America. The Title page of the Book of Mormon says it all and you can all go to the post for this podcast, on my blog to read what it says or any Book of Mormon and then tell me what you think it says? So, you guys tell me, does the introduction page in the Book of Mormon, make it sound like it's an "ACTUAL HISTORY OF ANCIENT INHABITANTS OF AMERICA, THAT ARE THE PRINCIPAL ANCESTORS OF AMERICAN INDIANS?" Sorry Van Hale, my misunderstanding I guess!! LOL!! Enjoy everyone and please leave your comments!! For the links, comments and more thorough information regarding this podcast, please visit: http://mormontruthuncensored.blogspot.com/ Samuel the Utahnite

Okay guys, I had to do more follow-up on this horrific and awful situation!! First of all, in the news article that I shared with you guys last week, in podcast MTU #2, about the brutal and horrific robbery, gang rape and assault of these two young women, the mission president, Brock Jolley, was quoted as saying: "The two 'sisters' voluntarily gave up 18 months of their lives to make a difference in this country. "Now, they're getting the best care money can buy. When this is over, they plan to remain in South Africa and complete their missionary work." So, Mr. Danny Brock, pathetic mission president, of Bountiful Utah, wanted to make sure that everyone knew that these two sisters, despite being gang raped, most likely at knife point, for as long as 2 hours, robbed and one of them shot in the stomach, that "they plan to remain in South Africa and complete their missionary work." He also wanted to reassure everyone how safe the area was, and what a safe time of day it was, in order to cover his own ass, along with the Mormon Church's, when he said the following: "They were walking alongside a busy road (the old Harding highway), which they knew well. Moreover, it was one of the busiest times of the day with cars whizzing past. Safer than that, you would not get." Now, one of the main reasons that I'm doing this follow-up to what I said in podcast #2, is because the ABC affiliate, Channel 4, here in Salt Lake, interviewed Danny Brock's daughter about the situation and she is nothing but a brainwashed member of the Mormon cult, whose dad is a mission president in said cult. You can go and read the transcript of the interview, which I cover in this podcast and I also encourage everyone to watch the actual video interview, in order to see the far off, cult look in her eyes. Her final statement, that pretty much sums things up in perfect TBM form, was: "Bad things happen everywhere and it's unfortunate. My heart goes out to those poor sisters and their families but the work must go on." Molly is just reminding us of the fact that the cold and heartless Mormon Church hierarchy doesn't really care what happens to any of their members, especially the volunteer missionaries, as M. Russell Ballard says (right after the deaths of Elders Benjamin Ellsworth and Morgan W. Young and the 2 Elders in New Zealand): "This work will continue to go forward regardless of what happens, regardless of what the future may hold. If there are other missionaries that are hurt or other missionaries that are killed, it will not stop this work." For those of you considering a mission for the Mormon cult, please reconsider, because they will not protect you or care one iota about you, even if you die, get sick or seriously injured. The number one objective, once you are under their control, and I mean CONTROL, is that you finish your mission. If necessary, they will send you to unsafe areas and countries, in order to further their agenda of numbers, baptisms, image and tithing dollars. If you die, the work will go on, without missing a beat and oh yeah, those "holy, magic garments" will not protect you if somebody shoots you, hits you with a car, rapes you, or assaults you, so just stay home, don't believe their fairy tales and go to school, marry the girl or guy that you love and continue on with your life and you'll be much better off in the long run. After all, you don't have to serve a Mormon mission, in order to have an experience abroad and learn another language. Take care everyone and thanks again for your support!! ***For links to the above story, please visit: http://mormontruthuncensored.blogspot.com/ Samuel the Utahnite

Okay guys, I had to do more follow-up on this horrific and awful situation!! First of all, in the news article that I shared with you guys last week, in podcast MTU #2, about the brutal and horrific robbery, gang rape and assault of these two young women, the mission president, Brock Jolley, was quoted as saying: "The two 'sisters' voluntarily gave up 18 months of their lives to make a difference in this country. "Now, they're getting the best care money can buy. When this is over, they plan to remain in South Africa and complete their missionary work." So, Mr. Danny Brock, pathetic mission president, of Bountiful Utah, wanted to make sure that everyone knew that these two sisters, despite being gang raped, most likely at knife point, for as long as 2 hours, robbed and one of them shot in the stomach, that "they plan to remain in South Africa and complete their missionary work." He also wanted to reassure everyone how safe the area was, and what a safe time of day it was, in order to cover his own ass, along with the Mormon Church's, when he said the following: "They were walking alongside a busy road (the old Harding highway), which they knew well. Moreover, it was one of the busiest times of the day with cars whizzing past. Safer than that, you would not get." Now, one of the main reasons that I'm doing this follow-up to what I said in podcast #2, is because the ABC affiliate, Channel 4, here in Salt Lake, interviewed Danny Brock's daughter about the situation and she is nothing but a brainwashed member of the Mormon cult, whose dad is a mission president in said cult. You can go and read the transcript of the interview, which I cover in this podcast and I also encourage everyone to watch the actual video interview, in order to see the far off, cult look in her eyes. Her final statement, that pretty much sums things up in perfect TBM form, was: "Bad things happen everywhere and it's unfortunate. My heart goes out to those poor sisters and their families but the work must go on." Molly is just reminding us of the fact that the cold and heartless Mormon Church hierarchy doesn't really care what happens to any of their members, especially the volunteer missionaries, as M. Russell Ballard says (right after the deaths of Elders Benjamin Ellsworth and Morgan W. Young and the 2 Elders in New Zealand): "This work will continue to go forward regardless of what happens, regardless of what the future may hold. If there are other missionaries that are hurt or other missionaries that are killed, it will not stop this work." For those of you considering a mission for the Mormon cult, please reconsider, because they will not protect you or care one iota about you, even if you die, get sick or seriously injured. The number one objective, once you are under their control, and I mean CONTROL, is that you finish your mission. If necessary, they will send you to unsafe areas and countries, in order to further their agenda of numbers, baptisms, image and tithing dollars. If you die, the work will go on, without missing a beat and oh yeah, those "holy, magic garments" will not protect you if somebody shoots you, hits you with a car, rapes you, or assaults you, so just stay home, don't believe their fairy tales and go to school, marry the girl or guy that you love and continue on with your life and you'll be much better off in the long run. After all, you don't have to serve a Mormon mission, in order to have an experience abroad and learn another language. Take care everyone and thanks again for your support!! ***For links to the above story, please visit: http://mormontruthuncensored.blogspot.com/ Samuel the Utahnite

This podcast includes a little bit of everything and is just a hodgepodge of topics and things that are and have been on my mind. This podcast was recorded on the 4th of July, so I first give a shout out to the troops and thank them for all that they do, along with their families, to ensure us the freedoms here in America and others, in other parts of the world, to do such things as record and listen to this podcast. I want to thank all the troops, from all over the world, that are fighting terrorism in unity, to protect us and our families and our countries. HAPPY 4TH OF JULY EVERYONE!! I then start off talking about the horrific gang rape of two sister missionaries in South Africa, which is considered to be the Gang rape Capital of the world, with an estimated 1,000,000 + per year and it ranks 2nd in murder and assault, yet is still a very safe place for Mormon missionaries. Yeah, sure sounds like it, doesn't it? I also comment about Hinckley's new self-named building/visitor's center at BYU-Provo and what a huge, massive deal it was for the Church to publicize it, disgustingly so I might add. If only I could touch that same shovel he touched....please!! I talk about Jeffrey Nielsen, the BYU professor that came out in opposition of the Mormon First Presidency and their views on homosexuals and their rights to be able to marry. I talk about the judgmental Christian view of things and how ridiculous and hypocritical it is for them to be judging and condemning anyone that doesn't believe exactly as they do, while condemning Mormons for doing the same exact thing. Now I'm not sure who's worse, the Christian activists or the Mormon die-hards and hierarchy. I also talk about comments on my blogs and my 1 year anniversary of being out of the Mormon cult, along with a few other things. Again, I thank all of you for your support and lets keep it rolling and help as many people as we can, to discover the truth of the Mormon cult and/or deal with the discovery of the Mormon fraud. Samuel the Utahnite Originally published on July 5th, 2006

This podcast includes a little bit of everything and is just a hodgepodge of topics and things that are and have been on my mind. This podcast was recorded on the 4th of July, so I first give a shout out to the troops and thank them for all that they do, along with their families, to ensure us the freedoms here in America and others, in other parts of the world, to do such things as record and listen to this podcast. I want to thank all the troops, from all over the world, that are fighting terrorism in unity, to protect us and our families and our countries. HAPPY 4TH OF JULY EVERYONE!! I then start off talking about the horrific gang rape of two sister missionaries in South Africa, which is considered to be the Gang rape Capital of the world, with an estimated 1,000,000 + per year and it ranks 2nd in murder and assault, yet is still a very safe place for Mormon missionaries. Yeah, sure sounds like it, doesn't it? I also comment about Hinckley's new self-named building/visitor's center at BYU-Provo and what a huge, massive deal it was for the Church to publicize it, disgustingly so I might add. If only I could touch that same shovel he touched....please!! I talk about Jeffrey Nielsen, the BYU professor that came out in opposition of the Mormon First Presidency and their views on homosexuals and their rights to be able to marry. I talk about the judgmental Christian view of things and how ridiculous and hypocritical it is for them to be judging and condemning anyone that doesn't believe exactly as they do, while condemning Mormons for doing the same exact thing. Now I'm not sure who's worse, the Christian activists or the Mormon die-hards and hierarchy. I also talk about comments on my blogs and my 1 year anniversary of being out of the Mormon cult, along with a few other things. Again, I thank all of you for your support and lets keep it rolling and help as many people as we can, to discover the truth of the Mormon cult and/or deal with the discovery of the Mormon fraud. Samuel the Utahnite Originally published on July 5th, 2006

This is my first addition of Mormon Truth Uncensored and I'm just gonna call it...MTU #1, #2, etc and then a brief description in the Title about what I'm gonna talk about. Tonight, I must address a local, Mormon, radio talk show host, who is named Van Hale. I have been listening to his show, off an on, since last summer and we have been corresponding for the last week, through Emails, about what is considered to be "Mormon Doctrine." Of course, he easily dismisses anything that is contradictory to the beautiful painting, that he wants to paint, of the Mormon Church and it's glorious, inspired cult Hierarchy. Last week, we had Email correspondence and He mentioned me and quoted some of my Emails last week on his show, so now, I'm gonna do him the same service. I fully expect him to continue discussing me this week, as I guess I've inspired him to have this topic and keep it going for two weeks, or what is "official Mormon Doctrine." You guys need to know what this guy is saying and I hope the Mormon Hierarchy is listening as well. If I, as a Mormon, or any TBM, went public and said what he says on a regular basis, on his talk show and in Emails, I'd be called to a "court of love" and most likely exed. Maybe we should start a countdown as to when he will be called in. Of course, the ol' double standard kicks in for some reason, when it involves Van Hale. So, I would like to explore his comments and why and how he gets away with what he does. I was also pleasantly surprised, that even Jared, the die-hard Mormon Apologist, from my 4 part podcast interview, weighed in on the subject and sent Van Hale an Email, calling my assertions on what is "official doctrine" to be absurd. Enjoy everyone and I will be doing much more on this subject, in a full podcast with the audio clips of what Van Hale has been saying and many more Email excerpts of what he has written to me. Thanks for tuning in and as always, thanks for your support. Samuel the Utahnite

Hey, I was just hanging out and had a few minutes and I called this in on my cell phone. It isn't the greatest quality, but hey, it's okay as good as it's gonna get, when I'm on my cell phone and I just had a few things on my mind. Thanks everyone, Samuel the Utahnite